wannabefree,
I think it is respect for God. If we were before the President or King or Queen of our respective country I don't think we would feel the need to hug each other when thanking them or asking for there help.
i attended one day of a two day assembly and did ok until the very last talk.
the brother was from bethal and well jw's pay closer attention to their talks, cause that is when some new info is given,,,right.
well anyways i lost focus and began to daydream, cause it became one of those talks that just talks about wasting time.
wannabefree,
I think it is respect for God. If we were before the President or King or Queen of our respective country I don't think we would feel the need to hug each other when thanking them or asking for there help.
i attended one day of a two day assembly and did ok until the very last talk.
the brother was from bethal and well jw's pay closer attention to their talks, cause that is when some new info is given,,,right.
well anyways i lost focus and began to daydream, cause it became one of those talks that just talks about wasting time.
I personally never liked to see the hugging in the prayer and felt it was quite unnecessary when you are before the Almighty. Most had managed to get through the meeting without hugging, few more minutes wouldn't matter.
when we were witnesses every other witness was our "friend" ,but more often than not they were just aquantinces involved in the same religion as we were .
at the time i felt i would have given my life for others in my hall .
i tried very hard to be a good friend to others by showing personal interest in their lives and offering encouragement or help when they needed it ,but i never really felt a real connection with most .. i always wanted to have a friend and be the type of friend that could just stop by to shoot the breeze at anytime and feel welcome .
troubled mind,
"When we were witnesses every other witness was our "friend" ,but more often than not they were just aquantinces involved in the same religion as we were"
I found it like this. I was raised as a witness and did not make friends with the world.
"Who do you consider as a friend?
I know a fair amount of people but would struggle to have a party and have had no one round for dinner in 15 years other than family. When I first had real problems with the Watchtower and tried to discuss it with my friends it didn't take long for the beginnings of the judical process to start. Friends? Yes in a way they were. They meant well but were misguided.
At the present I have about four women I consider friends but being married restricts the friendship. How much can a man do with a woman before it becomes a relationship? I don't know? As for male friends. In todays society if two men do things together they are soon labeled gay. My younger brother had some rooms in his house he rented out to professional men. It was long before some of the neighbours assumed he was gay and were very rude to him. (This was in a good nieghbourhood)
I think a good friend should be supportive but honest.
if you bought into the lie that "millions now living will never die," has the.
realization that you will very likely reach retirement age, settled in your mind just yet?.
for instance, i never looked to see if there was a 401k plan when i was in the jw cult.
Twenty one years ago whilst setting up a small business I had the banking chap round for a chat about insurance and such matters. He went on to me for a good half hour about starting a personal pension plan. I flatly refused.
At the time my parents were staying with us both JW's. When the bank's man left. I went into the living with a drink and we discussed it, my wife and I along with my parents. We felt it would be a lack of faith in the Faithfull Slave who had explained Jesus words (He was their head) that the generation would not pass away. I could have afforded to pay into the pension fund but how could I say I believed the end was near if I did? To do so would mean an element of doubt.
I didn't start one until some ten or so years later when I was leaving the JW's. At this time my contributions were much lower as my circumstances had changed. The financial advisor noticed that I had not taken the plan some ten years earlier and calculated that i could have retired with twice the amount of money if I had.
My retirement looks bleak to say the least. I'm hoping being such good christian men the Governing Body will reimbuse my losses.
It's a really good question i think. I've thought about it alot over the years. I would really like to say no, but if i'm honest I think i would have to say yes.
when i was a loyal dub, i have turned down some gorgeous women.
.
Yes, still do.
i am really on the fence on this issue right now and would love some opinions.. i find that i dont sit down and read the bible for long periods since becoming inactive, but on the other hand, individual scriptures mean much more to me now.. i will sit down and look up some favorite passages from time to time and feel like its the first time i really "got it" - without the jw goggles on.
i love matthew chapter 23, since i think it describes to a tee the situation in jw congregations.
i think if jesus returned today, he would blast the elders and "leaders" of the borg in a similar fashion (along with most religious leaders) .matthew 24 is actually more interesting to me now, simply because my whole life was waiting for the 1914 generation to end sometime during the reagan era!
I dedicated my life to God. I left the JW's as I wasn't dedicated to them. I have found I am more interested in the bible since leaving the organization and on the occasions when I feel like going to the hall which get rarer, I usually find it is a good time and place to read the bible. I would say I have a greater appreciation for the bible now i see God in a much more loving light.
i used the phrase on another thread and realized it might be of interest."....
take away my birthday" is:a sarcastic response when someone warns you not to do something that is considered socially unacceptable.. example of usage:'you really shouldn't drop stink bombs in the class room the same day of finals.
take away my birthday?
I didn't particularly mind not celebrating as i'd never known any different but i felt really stupid trying to explain to others why. It is such a pathetic reason. There was always the excuse that we give presents at anytime. Well I never knew of anyone giving presents when I was a child.
there always seemed to be some witnesses who seemed to be in it for the social aspect of it.
the ones who planned most of the gatherings and trips.
and the ones who got invited to the parties two states away.
I think I would have given my life for my belief as a JW. I done what I believed was my 100% as a witness. Although it was suggested that it wasn't. I examined my belief to the best of my abilities at various points and continued on. I tried to be nice to people to had left. I left not because I wanted to but because I felt I had too. I had few friends and even fewer invites. In the last 10 years of active service in the congregation no Elder or Ministerial servants ever invited my wife or me round.
i've lurking for months, and have enjoyed the various personalities on the board.
i'm pretty sure that i've seen this topic done on an old thread, but i don't want to get my buddy asilentone all riled up by performing a resurrection.
minimus- cause he is funny.
I have thought about this for awhile. One woman comes to mind. For one line she posted. Having said that I can't think of anyone whose posts I've read that I wouldn't want to have a drink with although mine would have to be wine or spirits unless its very warm weather.